Hindus Do Not Do Idol Worship

Western Society and Abrahamic religions are often dazzled and confused by all the deity worship with in the Hinduism. So, through this conversation a Hindu or follower of Sanatan Dharma will give light on this confusion of abrahamic faith followers.

Muslim Brothers Asks:

Hindus do idol worship which is condemned in Abrahamic religious books like the holy Quran, the Holy Bible and the Holy Torah.

Hindu/Sanatan Dharmic Answers :

Hindus do not do idol worship. The Vedas also are thoroughly opposed to idol worship, but what you have seen in Hindu temples is not idol worship but rather Deity worship. It is very easy to understand how Deity worship may at first appear as idol worship to a person who is unfamiliar with the principle behind this important devotional process. After all, the form of the Deity is crafted by a man out of some kind of material elements, and that form is later worshipped in the temple with devotion.

Deity Worship is one of the best beneficial devotional service which gives us opportunity to take every breath in supreme bliss.

In the Vedas, Deity worship is an extremely important devotional process to help us develop love of God. In fact, it is one of the nine general classifications of devotional service mentioned in Sanskrit in the Vedas.

It is said, çravaëaà kértanaà viñëoù smaraëaà päda-sevanam arcanaà vandanaà däsyaà sakhyam ätma-nivedanam [Bhäg. 7.5.23]

“Devotional service consists of (1) hearing about the Lord, (2) chanting His glories, (3) remembering Him, (4) serving and meditating upon His lotus feet, (5) worshiping Him, (6) praying to Him, (7) thinking oneself His eternal servant, (8) becoming His friend, and (9) surrendering everything to Him.” The fifth process mentioned here, arcanaà, worshipping the Lord, refers to Deity worship.

In Bhagabat Gita Lord says that the highest conception of yoga perfection is God-consciousness through “deity worship” is clearly explained in this verse.

“sa vai manah krishna-padaravindayor vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane karau harer mandira-marjanadishu srutim cakaracyuta-sat-kathodaye mukunda-lingalaya-darsane drisau tad-bhritya-gatra-sparse ‘nga-sangamam ghranam ca tat-pada-saroja-saurabhe srimat-tulasya rasanam tad-arpite padau hareh kshetra-padanusarpane siro hrishikesa-padabhivandane kamam ca dasye na tu kama-kamyaya yathottama-sloka-janasraya ratih”

“King Ambarisha fixed his mind on the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, engaged his words in describing the abode of the Lord, his hands in cleansing the temple of the Lord, his ears in hearing the pastimes of the Lord, his eyes in seeing the form of the Lord, his body in touching the body of the devotee, his nostrils in smelling the flavor of the flowers offered to the lotus feet of the Lord, his tongue in tasting the tulasi leaves offered to Him, his legs in traveling to the holy place where His temple is situated, his head in offering  obeisances unto the Lord, and his desires in fulfilling the desires of the Lord… and all these qualifications made him fit to become an excellent devotee of the Lord.”

Muslims asks

I still do not see the difference. Koran also says that one should worship the Lord, but the act of worshipping idols as God is condemned. What makes the Hindu’s Deity worship any different from the worship of idols so condemned in the abrahamic tradition?

Hindu/Sanatan Dharmic answers

The difference is that God authorizes the worship of Deities. For example, if you put mail into an authorized mailbox it will be delivered to the address written on the envelope. But if you drop that mail into some box other than an authorized mailbox, it will not be delivered. Similarly, if you create some form, call it God, and worship it, all according to your own mental concoction, there will be no benefit and your act will be condemned by God. If however, you create a form according to the actual description of God’s form given in the revealed scriptures, and if you worship that form according to the rules and regulations given by God in the scriptures, you will achieve excellent results. The result of that worship is supreme love for God.

This is instructed by Almighty Lord Vishnu in his Lord Krishna incarnation. Uddhava a devotee of lord is getting “divaya gyan” on deity worship from Lord in this verse.

SB 11.27

Śrī Uddhava said: My dear Lord, O master of the devotees, please explain to me the prescribed method of worshiping You in Your Deity form. What are the qualifications of those devotees who worship the Deity, on what basis is such worship established, and what is the specific method of worship? All the great sages repeatedly declare that such worship brings the greatest benefit possible in human life. This is the opinion of Nārada Muni, the great Vyāsadeva and my own spiritual master, Brihaspati. O most magnanimous Lord, the instructions on this process of Deity worship first emanated from Your lotus mouth. Then they were spoken by the great Lord Brahmā to his sons, headed by Bhrigu, and by Lord Śiva to his wife, Pārvatī. This process is accepted by and appropriate for all the occupational and spiritual orders of society. Therefore I consider worship of You in Your Deity form to be the most beneficial of all spiritual practices, even for sinners.

So Lord Krishna, God Himself, has authorized the process of worshipping Him in the form of a deity.

SB 11.27.48: Whenever one develops faith in Me — in My form as the Deity or in other bona fide manifestations — one should worship Me in that form. I certainly exist both within all created beings and also separately in My original form, since I am the Supreme Soul of all.

Muslim Brother asks :

In principle I understand that if God actually authorizes some activity, it must be correct. Still, I have difficulty understanding how a person can learn to love God by worshipping a form that He himself has created. Perhaps my difficulty is that in the abrahamic scriptures, I know of no description of God’s form that is detailed enough to allow someone to craft a form like it. Also, I am not familiar with any descriptions in the Islamic scriptures about how to worship such a form like a Deity. Such worship is repeatedly condemned as idolatry.

Hindu/Sanatan Dharmic answers:

Abrahamic scriptures may not give a clear and detailed description of the form of God, but the Vedas do. The Vedas also give a very detailed description of the method of Deity worship. The principle is that if you want to love God, you must be able to develop some personal relationship with Him. As we have discussed several times, the purpose of religion is to develop love of God. Service to God is the symptom and means to that love. In our impure state, may be it hindu or muslim or Christian, we are not qualified to see the original spiritual form of God and to worship Him. By His mercy He has agreed to appear in the form of His Deity. Therefore, the whole process of Deity worship gives us an opportunity to directly serving God. As the devotee renders continuous and regulated service to the Deity according to the methods authorized in the scriptures, the impurities of our heart gradually become cleansed and our natural loving relationship with the Lord is manifest. Without being able to relate to God in some personal way there is no question of learning to love Him, even though He is all-pervading and can accept our offering any time or place.

 

Lord describes about the infinite nature of Him:

“sarvatah pani-padam tat sarvato ’ksi-siro-mukham sarvatah shrutimal loke sarvam avrtya tishthati” (Bhagwat Gita: Chapter 13 verse 14)

“Sri Krishna said: O Arjuna,I am everywhere and in everyone. In this way the Super Soul exists, pervading everything in this world.”

So, God is everywhere. Anyone who believes in God must accept God everywhere. He is in everything so is He not in this wood or stone?” But the difference is we are recognizing Him here, we are worshiping Him here, we are focusing our attention in Him here. It is explained in the scriptures that when an advanced devotee invokes the presence of the Lord in a form that is particularly designed as explained then out of causeless mercy and kindness the supreme God appears in that form to accept our love. If we approach the deity as stone, the deity appears to us as stone, if we approach the deity as God, the deity will reveal Himself as God; of course, at the beginning our vision is material so we cannot see the spiritual. It is for that reason that God allows us to worship His transcendental form in deity form.

Muslim Brothers asks :

So, Hindus are using deities for concentration? Then abrahamic faith followers and Muslims don’t need to worship deities because they are advanced than Hindus and need no concentration for god.

Hindu/Sanatan Dharmic answers :

No, this is wrong perception that Hindus are using deities is for concentration. Hindus or Sanatan Dharma followers are spiritually intelligent. Islam, Christianity and other abramahic religions focus on helping those who do not believe in God. For them believe in God is the beginning and end of the process.

Therefore the essences of abrahamic religions or Islam/Christianity are Fear god and obey god. However, in Hinduism belief is only the first and lower level system. The ultimate goal of Hinduism is to move beyond just believing in god to experiencing God here or direct experience of the Divine. The experience of God, in sense of complete God Realization, is sole motive of a Hindu life. Therefore the essence of Hinduism is to Love god and become one with the Supreme Soul.

The fear brings one only up to certain point and beyond that it repels, but love takes through to the point. Devotion or bhakti as often referred to is a very key concept in Hinduism, even for the philosophically inclined ones. While the shashtras – be it vedas, Agamas, purANas – describe the Glory of God, one finds abundance of stotras that praise the God in love.

So, it is understanding problem of non–Hindus that idol is required for concentration only in the initial stages and not later on when the mind reaches higher consciousness. Hindus starts their life having highest consciousness of god and their life ends on transforming and liberating experience of complete God realization or seeing God. Some Abrahamic faiths like Islam do not allow seeing god or completing god realization so followers of these religions live life in initial god consciousness and there is little hope for realizing god beyond going religious instructions.

Muslim brothers Asks :

Your explanation helps me have a clearer understanding of Hindu Deity worship, but your own scriptures say god has no form. These following verses I have found in “Islamic research foundation” site. What you gonna say now?

The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:

“Ekam evadvitiyam” “He is One only without a second.” [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1

“Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah.” “Of Him there are neither parents nor lord.” [Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2

“Na tasya pratima asti” “There is no likeness of Him.” [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3

The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:

“Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.” “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4

“na tasya pratima asti” “There is no image of Him.”[Yajurveda 32:3]5

“shudhama poapvidham” “He is bodyless and pure.”[Yajurveda 40:8]6

“Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste”

“They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements” (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). “They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti.” [Yajurveda] Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.

Hindu/Sanatan dharmic answers :

Well all the understanding and projecting the meaning of these verses are completely wrong.Let me explain it. Abrahamic faith followers sometimes failed to understand  and become confused in hindu scriptures because trying to do an in and out analysis without getting on to taste its fruit by practicing would make one feel exhausted. Because it is not a religion of limited contours. It is really an ocean of knowledge. Hindu shashtras – be it vedas, Agamas, purANas – describe two aspects of God

  1. Nirguna Brahman The absolute with out qualities, is impersonal, without guna or attributes, Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal and Akarta (non-agent).in nirguna god is sadashiva, parameswar, paramatma or adisakti. In his formless form or nirguna aspect god is the transcendental formless reality, and the most unknown who is in the form of without qualities and attributes. Nirguna Brahman is the supreme lord , the eternal truth , the absolute ,invisible ,which is beyond the senses and mind and without time.
  2. Saguna Brahman Qualified absolute, came from the Sanskrit saguṇa (सगुण) “with qualities” and brahman (ब्रह्मन्) “the Absolute.” The personal aspect of the Ultimate Reality. Saguna Brahman is cosmic lord who combines within himself the role of creatopn , maintenance , destruction ,concealment and liberation. As the supreme self or almighty divine being in saguna Brahman God is mahavishnu, mahasiva , mahasakti etc. But Saguna Brahman and Nirguan Brahman are not two different Brahmans but two identical aspects of one lord.

SO   “na tasya pratima asti” There is no image of Him.

So, there is no image of God when God manifests Himself as nirguNa brahman (attributeless god).

“shudhama poapvidham” “He is bodyless and pure.

God is bodyless when He is in his Nirakara/Nirguna State.

“Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.” “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”

This verse says When God is Nirvikar or Nirakar or Nirguna , in this state no one can see him. Even God is in Saguna Form one can’t see his divine form from his material eyes. One can only see god through his spiritual eyes.

“Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste” “They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements” (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). “They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti.” 

This verse says without God’s authentication if one create some form, call it god and worship it, all according to it’s mental concoction then all his process will go in vain.

“Ekam evadvitiyam” “He is One only without a second.”

Hinduism is often labeled as a religion of 330 million gods. This misunderstanding arises when people fail to grasp the rich philosophy of Hinduism. Hindus believe in the One Lord,Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is the original and primeval person who is simultaneously expanded everywhere throughout existence and yet is still situated in His eternal abode in His original, transcendental form. He is the all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-merciful being. He is the chief eternal living entity amongst all eternal living entities who are His parts. He is responsible for fulfilling all the desires of the subordinate living entities since time immemorial.

Muslim Brothers Asks :

Well, Now my confusions about are clearing about Hindu deity worship.

Hindu/Sanatan Dharmic Answers:

The Lord is ultimately interested in the spiritual welfare of everyone. He instructs us to do that which is for our ultimate spiritual benefit and He condemns those activities that are unfavorable for us to develop our love for Him. If we serve the Deity according to the authorized process, then we will be spiritually benefited. Otherwise, we will not.

Therefore Lord Brahma says

ishvaraha parama krishnaha sac-chid-ananda-vigraha anadir adi govindaha sarva-karana-karanam

Krsna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an eternal, blissful, spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.

namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya cha jagad-dhitaya krishnaya govindaya namo namaha

“I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Krishna, who is the worshipable Deity for all the brahmanas and the benefactor of the whole world. I offer my repeated obeisances to the Personality of Godhead, known as Krishna and Govinda.”

Sources

  1. Radhanatha Swami Blog
  2. Krishna .org
  3. folknet .in
  4. Lectures of Srila Prabhupada
  5. Devi Gita
  6. Bhagabat Gita
  7. Srimad Bhagabatam
  8. equalsoul .org
  9. shaivam .org

68 comments on “Hindus Do Not Do Idol Worship

  1. Your whole explanation does not support any of the answers you have given. And first of all if you don’t fear God whom will you fear humans. Even every child has a fear of his parents, that does not mean a child does not love his parent.So your answers dont make any sense and why should one believe your translation of Scripts. And we love God thats why we pray. To justify oneself that you dont do Idol worship, does not by pass me.

    You have different Gods. So what are krishna and Rama and Vishnu, if they are not Gods of your then who are they. ????

    • child does not love when it fears someone. child only stick to the parents because child knows no one except them, it child’s necessity. when child obey others in fear that mean that child only acting in fear not in love…pure love has no existence in fear or violence. there can be one emotion at a time not all.

      in koran there is no concept of love for god, it says to have fear in the name of god and obey him because of the fear of punishments..

      we have one god who has different forms and different names..say it shiva or vishnu or krishna, all are one and equal to each other.

    • Dear Taz, Namaste!
      Sri Rama, Sri Krishna and other such historic dignitaries were all human beings. They are not GODs. GOD doesn’t incarnate as there is no such need as GOD is omnipresent, omniscient and all powerful pervading everywhere in his creation. Rama, Krishna were great human beings who become devata (humans of highest qualities, who always give, dene wala devata). They can never be GOD. GOD is one. Na Tasya Pratima Asti, There cannot be immage representation of GOD. The present day hindu rituals are mostly out of blind faith, irrational. But I love hinduism for its root beings Vedas which strictly prohibit idol worship. GOD can be perceived only through souls because only Soul and supreme soul (and also prakriti) are eternal. Human life is a great opportunity for us to realize the true nature of GOD and attain by the directions of our great rishis shown us. Puranas are full of fallacies. All the instances in puranas where gods giving boons to their bhakta is all trash and masala. I would strictly refer to vedas when there is something doubtful and get clarified. Vedas can be considered as a reference manuals for the product called “creation” for the human beings as the product users.

      • Well that explains a bit more. And makes more sense, I don’t have anything against Hindu, my best friend is a Hindu we both respect each others religion at the end of the day its every mans point of view, and you can imagine how difficult is to convey your message across someone who has been following something from day one.

        I dont know much about Vedas so will not comment. At the end of the day every mans faith which keeps them alive and strive for a better future in every sense.

      • hod is omniprestent and omnipotent.but he is omnipresent by his unmanifested form.not as saguna with presonal attributes.he is not just a pervading force.as saguna,he has form and in that form he is present in his abode like vaikuntha.
        now he is not limited to a realm.thus he takes incarnations by which he comes to the material realm since he is not limited to his world alone.if you say he would not take incarnations,then you enter into the logical fallacy of special pleading,that is why should he not incarnations and come to the material realm if he cannot be limited to one realm alone?
        that is the reason why he takes incarnations.
        he can take forms and can be represented by images. s.he does not become “limited”by taking a form because he,by dint of his inconceivable potencies can do contradictory things at the same time.thus he can take a form and yet retain his infinitude and transcendent the limitations demanded by that form(as saguna brahman).not a big deal for him.

      • Ramnarayan please read Bhagavad Gita. Then you would come to know Krishna is a human or god himself.In gita lord told that the persons who think that he is a normal human or historical human are great idiots.They can never attain him.Of course vedas are very sacred but puranas and upanishads describe them so you can’t disrespect them.You may be mayawadi that’s why you are telling like this.Please read gita and shrimad vagawad. May god bless you 🙏

    • Physically there is Krishna,Rama,You,I ,He ,she and it ,but spiritually there is nothing but the supreme being.This is Advaitha-there is no”TWO” only “ONE”.Tell me who are the real believers in the oneness of God? Hindus or Muslims?
      To understand Advaitha, plain chanting of some scriptures will not do-you need to read,understand ,assimilate and realize the truth all yourself.

    • they are just the way of showing the real god .if hindus worship them then they are worshiping the real god.but we don t know who the real god is.it may be shiva ,jesus,
      allah or even none of these.that is why you have to respect all religiens.

    • If you are really concerned with Idol Worship. All Muslims, Christians as well as Hindus must repent. All Muslims are revolving aroung black stone. If some body questions, Muslims answer with fairy tales as Hindus do when some body questions them from Vedas and Christians do If they are questioned from Bible. Is there single verse in the Quoran regarding black stone worship. It was the part of Idols temple Kaba. There was no historical account that Abraham built a temple. Even if Abraham builds a temple and establishes a stone to revolve around it, he was an idol worshipper. Muhammad was an Idol worshipper. All muslims includes Muhammad will go to hell, according to Quoran itself.

  2. Dear brother,
    I would like to tell you if you have ever read the Holy Qu’ran then every chapter’s starts with –
    “In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful”
    where the word Merciful clearly tells us that Allah loves his creation and there is no doubt that his purpose is to not only punish his creation for wrong deeds but to show His mercy and love. It is Allah’s love for us that he has given us a life which we have and the things which we “need” to survive.

    Also, in the very first Hadith in the collection of Hadith Qudsi it is told –

    On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said:

    When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath.

    which again contradicts you.

    If you were to return to the the Holy Qur’an, you would see many examples of Allah’s love for creation. Numerous verses make direct reference to Allah’s love for us, and provide guidance on how to receive that love.

    In Surat Aal-i-Imran, Allah The Most High says, “Say: “If you do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” (3:31).

    In Surat al-Baqara, Allah Ta’ala says, “For Allah loves those who turn to Him constantly and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean” (2:222).

    In Surat al-Ma’ida, Allah the Majestic says, “Verily Allah does love those who do good” (5:13). The list goes on and on. Allah declares His love for humanity by enumerating the characteristics which endear us to Him, thereby providing us with inspiration and guidance.

    There are a plethora of indirect references to Allah’s love as well. You needs to look up the verses on forgiveness and repentance to get an idea of how incredibly vast Allah’s love is.Islam gives people the opportunity to form a direct relationship with God. Have you ever considered the role of the five pillars? Have you thought about the way we turn in prayer, every day, five times a day, to the Lord of the Worlds in love, reverence, and awe? Muslims are honored to be God’s slaves because in this relationship of absolute slavehood and obedience to Allah, they taste the sweetness of faith and feel unbounded love.I pray that Allah Ta’ala opens your heart and brings you back to the Straight Path.

    Even if I accept what you say( which is completely wrong) i.e.
    “..it says to have fear in the name of god and obey him because of the fear of punishments” (your comment)

    those punishments are for our own benefit and not for the benefit of Allah and I would be honored enough if Allah punishes me for wrong not because He likes to punish people but because Allah loves me and he want them to live a happy life on this earth and hereafter.

    May Allah guide you to the truth.
    And Allah knows best.

    • Dear Faisal,
      Nice to read your comments. I don’t have to refere anything from holy quran or al hadith.Tax didn’t ask you that whether Allah has love for you or not, but he asked you that whether you have love for Allah??? Is it selfless or selfish love??? You see, What taz tried to say that what is the distinguish between final achievement of Hindu and Islam. Hindu’s desire is to get free,libarated from this earthly life, as well as from heavenly pleasures. Both of them is an obstacle between you and Allah. But Muslims, they prey Allah either they scare to ho to hell, or for heavenly pleasures. They want to make sex with hories in haven, drink wine, spend their time in all this bullshit things. It means their love for Allah is for their own benefit. So it is not selfless, it is selfish love. I have my own benefit to pray Allah.

      Now come to Hinduism, Hindu devote them self for Mukti, final libaretion. They are ready even to sacrifice the haven also for the shake of Allah. Can Muslim even emagine that???? Cannot. They do everything for haven, not for Allah.

      By the way, if Allah is mist gracious and beneficial one, and his mercy preveil over his anger, how can such person send one in permanent punishment at hell. I don’t get it.

  3. As per Bible we have to love each and every one either he is Hindu or Muslim or Christians. Each and every human being is created by God and Human is one of the best art in nature by God. so friendship is good. but we can share our experience and faith regarding almighty. As one day we have to die and we have to leave this world where we have to face the result of all the work done here in this world. If i feel that yes this is the true worship of God i must share it with other people so that other people also may know about the other religion. it depends on other whether he is agreed or not. because i feel that Christianity is good and if my god ll ask me why u have not said this truth to others . if you had told this to them they may have also chosen the right path. that time i ll be in trouble so as per my view there should be always open discussion regarding religion and who ever will be impressed by which one should accept that religion. human society should allow every one to choose their religion as per their choice. we should be open minded it ll make every one to understand every religion . by doing so we ,may know to +ve and _ve side of every religion . it ll make every one to choose their own religion so that only he ll be responsible for his decision.

  4. Hi everyone as a human being we must know the truth.So everyone must read the QURAN ,send by almighty ALLAH.
    LA ILAHA ILLALAH MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH.

  5. When you have something so simple written in the Vedas “Do not have images of God” what is so confusing? Simple & Clear No Images, We are in a world of advanced science and technology, our forefathers might have been had different God’s in the nomadic days , but cant we not think better today? Use our senses to understand simple lines rather than creating another meaning for a very clear statement ? We all are one race “Human” we should definitely definitely have one supreme lord as explained “Ekam evadvitiyam” “He is One only without a second.” [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1 , there cant be two , very clear and we bring in our stories and explanations to cover up the multiple identities of God, The Veda’s are more older than the Bible or Quran ,the Veda’s can only be a revelations from the Supreme being just like the psalms,gospel,torah,quran etc. My Fellow brothers need to understand how the Saiten is being referred in later revelations,about how he would misguide us Humans as he is a plain enemy to our race. Only if you understand the creation and the revelations based on the beginning of creation we would understand why Saiten is our Enemy and how he influences our mind. The person who does good deeds,be thankful to the Supreme being and who does not associate partners to the Supreme being(avatars;sons;daughters etc) , he is of the winners of this life ,and an eternal life in Paradise.Why make it difficult to do this??
    Peace

    • problem is vedas should be understood from vedic perspective not koranic perspective. koran and other religions are full of imagery description of god,so we would encourage to understand world religions properly…

  6. Thank you help ppl to clear their confusions and understand the concept behind deity worship. Will you pls explain the real meaning of Shivlingam as I feel they how quite wrong perception about Shivalingam.

    Thanks again

    • Shivalingam is mark of shiva, shiva is light of lights, he is Supreme of all, as jesus said god is light. Shiva lingam is endless and beginless pillar of light or jyoti, and we are worshiping that symbol of Shiva. Some people call Shiva lingam as penis of Shiva but it is not true all dome shape things are not penis, if it so then rockets, pens all other dome shaped stuffs are penis also, well it is those ill-minded people’s porny mind only not the reality..

  7. how does one practising Hinduism become “one with GOD”?
    Which of the idols worshipped represents the True Supreme Being?
    You are completely wrong when you say religion is required to come close to GOD! ALL religion is sheer nonsense!
    GOD is NOT religion, but a relationship. An intimate relationship which cannot be had with 33 crore gods n goddesses!
    We are a reflection if Him as she created us. How many fathers & mothers do we have!!! How many suns & moons are there???
    Look at His Creation to understand THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATOR GOD!!!!
    He is the DEITY, not some foolish devilish human interpretations of how He looks!!!
    GOD is OUTSIDE of His Creation, time & Space.
    Which “avatar” has promised Moksha? Which “avatar” has not sinned?
    The Hinduism being practised today is a JUSTIFICATION for illegal & wrong practises, that’s all

    • being one with god is actual plan of god, we have come from him and will merge with him. this what actual revelation of god,vedas says, later many saints like jesus,muhammad came to the earth and tried to understand god theology in their own way but failed.God is not helpless, he is all-powerful so he has command that he resides everywhere, so deity worship of him is not wrong, and he accepts every way of worship of him. it is people of different religions who worshiping real god of veda, but all-merciful god is not rejecting their different way of worshiping him, he accepts all..

    • Dear Bacardi,
      You are absolutely right. GOD doesn’t need religion. He is above all these non-sense that we have today. The current day hinduism is very wrong. Today most of the hindu temples are commercial centers.
      GOD doesn’t have any form. HE cannot and need not take human or any form. HE is formless. Na Tasya Pratima Asti, as mentioned in Yajurved. Follow Veda,the ultimate knowledge given by GOD after the creation.

  8. hi everyone ….
    lot of discussions are over …well once my Sanskrit teacher asked me why do we do idol worship to look down upon me he being a arya smaj devotee (they don’t perform idol worship) he mockingly asked me making a mud idol doesn’t make it GOD giving it a shape doesn’t make it GOD…
    I had no answer to it… And the whole day i thought about it but couldn’t come up with any answer …. During dinner i narrated this whole incidence to my family.
    My dad who was enjoying his meal peacefully said ” Go and tell this to your teacher, their (arya smaj devotees) realization of god is much superior than us , they can visualize the supreme lord they can understand the concept of him being one is all ,all is one ..but for people like us first we need to visualize HIM as certain form give it a shape ad then through the process of samadhi or bhakti realize the omnipresence the supreme the lord.
    He then gave me another example which happened in the life of Swami Vivekananda…. I wont narrate the whole story i would explain it in this way …. will u ever disrespect the pic of ur father , ur baby , etc … though they are not present in the picture ….. its the same ….. that is how some person visualize HIM.

    And also to begin with if u really want to dip into this nectar of realization … the ultimate truth…

    start with WHO AM I??

    thanks
    namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya cha jagad-dhitaya krishnaya govindaya namo namaha

    “I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Krishna, who is the worshipable Deity for all the brahmanas and the benefactor of the whole world. I offer my repeated obeisances to the Personality of Godhead, known as Krishna and Govinda.”
    PS: I am just 25 years

    • Yes GOD is Saguna also. Saguna means HE is Justful, Merficiful, Omnipresent, Omnipotent. These are HIS gunas. This is what all true scriptures, vedas, vedangas proclaim.

      • god is not limited such that is he is saguna,he can only have few gunas.God is complete.to have a form is also a gune.thus God can take a form and appear in the world.

        • Kindly someone please answer one simple question. If GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent, where is the need for him to incarnate? If HE is taking forms to accomplish something then HE is not omnipotent. If HE take a form he becomes a limited entity and cannot be omnipresent. For me, Vedas are the ultimate truth and they are the only knowledge given by HIM. Vedic knowledge doesn’t contradict. Bhagavad gita and Puranas were written by great saints and anything man-made is not perfect. Bhagvad gita is acceptable to the extent that it aligns with the vedic knowledge.

          • GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent as nirguna brahma so as saguna brahma, His incarnation is also omnipotent and limitless. God’s Supreme Form is spiritual and transcendental while our forms are material,mortal and subject to decay and many limitations.

              • why should he not?
                for him everything is possible easily.sending of prophets or incarnating is equally possible for him.so,as per his wish,he can come anywhere at anytime,without limiting his personal presence to his personal abode like vaikuntha.if he wishes,he can easily come anyewhere.every act he does is as good as himself, so sending of prophets,or revealing knowledge of himself to sages,and incarnating,are all equal to him.he is not bound,or affected by any activity whereby he interacts with the world.taking incarnations is one way by which he interacts with the world.
                thus i dont find any problem in accepting the idea of him taking incarnations.sinse he is unlimited,he and his interactions with the world can take any form.incarnations is just one of them.further more,since he is unlimited and he is beyond the influence of place time and circumstances,i dont think there would be any problem in him appearing in a form to any part of the universe.if u say he cannot or would not incarnate,then,in the light of the above argument,you enter into the logical fallacy of special pleading.(that is,since place time and circumstances does not influence him,and is absolutely free and unlimited in his personal presence,why shouldn’t he come to the universe in a form?or why should we belive he would never incarnate?)the idea of God taking incarnations(as per his wish)based on the above arguments is higly likely and logical.
                thus i dont find any logical inconsistency in the idea of God incarnatng.

          • your another question,if omnipresent, why incarnate?
            he is omnipresent in his unmanifested form,as nirguna brahman,he incarnates in his personal form(saguna brahman).
            he is not taking a form to accomplish something that he cannot do it in another way.he is taking a form to accomplish something by his wish to accomplish it in that way.that does not limit his powers.he is just taking that way to do it.
            the vedas, puranas, and bhagavath geetha does not contradict with this idea of God incarnating.Bhagavad Gita is NOT to be rejected in any circumstances,it is to be taken as the essence of vedas.the idea of incarnation is mentioned in the rig veda and in the githa.
            i explained,y the concept of avatharas is not illogical or does not contraict the idea of an omnipotent God in any manner.the idea of incarnations is far beyond your perception of avatharas.what i said is not illogical,rather it is in alignment with the idea of an omnipotent God

            • In the first case, Vedas didn’t say GOD incarnates. I didn’t find a single verse supporting this, instead vedas say, GOD doesn’t have any form in many verses. One of the gunas(saguna brahman) for GOD, HE is ajanma(unborn) so there is no question of taking form or incarnation.

              “he is taking a form to accomplish something by his wish to accomplish it in that way” lacks logic and rationality. GOD’s actions are not irrational. This statement contradicts the ability of omnipotency. No vedic verse is in support of this quoted text.

              • THE BHAGAVATH GEETHA SAYS SO.
                NOW I BELIVE THE GEETHA AND IT DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE VEDAS.
                (A)
                HE IS AJA,UNBORN. BUT THAT DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE IDEA OF HIM TAKING INCARNATIONS.HE IS ALREADY PRESENT EVEN BEFORE HE TOOK THE INCARNATION.THE IDEA OF INCARNATION IS THAT HE SIMPLE APPEARS IN THIS WORLD VIA A SUPERFICIAL “BIRTH”.IN REALITY, HE IS NOT BORN,HE IS JUST APPEARING IN THE WORLD.
                IT SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN THAT WHEN HE INCARNATES,HE IS BORN AND IS CREATED.HE IS UNBORN AND IS PRESENT I=EVEN BEFORE HE CAME DOWN.

                (B)
                “he is taking a form to accomplish something by his wish to accomplish it in that way”

                coukd you explain how it lack logic and is irrational?
                the stamtement NEVER contradicts God’s omnipotency.IT IS SELF EVIDENT.
                read it. i did NOT say that he incarnates to accomplish something because he cannot accomplish it in another way.what is said was that He incarnates to accomplish it because he WISHED to accomplish in that way.how does it contradict God’s lack of power?
                He simply choose to come down.he can easily accomplis any task but here god chooses to come doewn.thats it.
                now you may ask:why God taking the trouble of coming down if he can easily accomplish any task without coming down to do it.REMEMBER HIS INCARNATIONS ARE CALLED AS LILAS MEANING “SPORTIVE ACTIVITIES”,MEANING THAT HE DOES THEM EASILY AND WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE.

                for that,remember these points:
                (1)God is neutral.nothing can affect him.thus he can choose whichever way he wishes.for him every way he chooses is one and the same.for us,some way might be difficult or indirect and others easy and direct.thus we go for direct and easy way.but god is ever neutral to any situation.thus he,out of his wish chooses different way,some easy and some indirect in our perception,but for God,all these paths are the same.
                thus for him,every thing is “easy” and “directly possible”,though our limited mind does make a gradation.

                to explain this a bit more clearly,let me put it in a different way.for us ,to accomplish something,we may choose different ways,where one is easier than the other.this difference is because of our limitation that one path is easier than the other.
                now consider God.for him,to achieve something,there can be many ways.kets consider two way A and B.if we say A is easier and direct than B,then B is difficult that A.but for God nothing can be “difficult” or “indirect”in any circumstances.he is equal and neutral to all these paths and circumstances.thus for him,even if he sents his messenger,or reveals himself to the sages through vedas,or rveals himself by incarnating down,its all equal for him-he is ever dteatched and ever neutral to all these ways in this manner.
                (2)God is ever detatched from the influence of place,time and circumstances. nothing is going to affect him or his potencies in any situation. naturally,he would appear anywhere at any time and in ay situation as per his wish withou getting affected in any way.naturally,since he is ever free,would come anywhere in the two realms(his spiritual world and the material world-the universe and its planets) as it is all the same for him where ever he is.for this reason,he is called achyutha(the untouchable one)that is, the material world cannot affect him or create in his mind a biased feeling of lising his majesty when he comes down.
                (3)god is all pervasive.in his form also(as saguna brahman),he is not just limited to his vaikuntha loka(personal abode),he pervaded the entire universe by him performing his lilas(the incarnations).thus him revealing his form is not limited to vaikuntha,but also extends it to the universe.

                “gods action are not irrational”
                first there is no irrationality in what i said,u didnt take it in the right sense.
                second,rational are those things which our brains can comprehend.those things our brain cannot comprehend are irrartional. but god is beyond our sense of comprehension. thus he can do things that are irrstional to our mind,since we cannot comprehend them.
                again,if you say he cannot do irrational things,then you limit God’s powers to the level of human understanding,thus your concept of God is not proper,but that of a limited entity.

                SIR PLEASE READ THE ABOVE STATEMENTS OF MINE(IN THE PREVIOUS POSTS ALSO) I CLEARLY TOLD HOW YOU WOULD ENTER INTO A LOGICAL INCONSISTENCY OF SPECIAL PLEADING IF YOU SAY HE WOULD NOT TAKE INCARNATIONS.READ THAT ALSO AND THEN DECIDE.

          • God is also sovereign. He can manifest Himself in any way He chooses to accomplish His plans. Still he can be omnipresent and omnipotent. He has His own ways to do some thing. If not, why should He use some saints to proclaim His knowledge?

            • Your response questions HIS omnipotency. Why would GOD take help of someone to accomplish his job? If he takes a form of human or some being, that being is devoid of aananda and GOD is always sat-chit-aananda. Again contradicts HIS nature.

  9. My Brother Hinduism1Om1 believes that god has Shapes however Vedas itself contradicts that in Yajurveda.
    “Yajurveda mantra 32/3 that “na tasya pratima asti” means there is no shape or statue of Almighty God He being omnipresent and in mantra 31/2, it is stated that only one God is there who creates, nurses and destroys the universe and after destroying again creates and so on. Thus at that time the necessity of temple was not deemed fit.”
    This is not read by the perception of any other religion but read by hindu perception.
    By above statement, If anyone believes Krishna, ram or any avatars as god, they themselves are disbelieving Vedas which leads to major misconception and misrepresenting their own religion. and if Vedas Itself says they are god then Veda is contradicting itself.
    Choice is Yours.

    • Syed bhai,
      Iam greatly impressed with your knowledge on Vedas.
      GOD has no shape or form. When HE is omnipotent, there is no need for him to come as Ram or Krishna or Muhammad or Jesus. These above are great dignitaries who taught us the true way of life but the senseless ppl made them GOD. Their lifestyles are worth following.

    • @Aajas Syed
      God has both formed and formless aspects-nirguna brahman and saguna brahman.the verse u showed refers to formless aspect of God or nirguna brahman.
      but if you look into other verses, you would find many verses talking of different forms of God. what you did is that you forgot this concept of nirgguna and saguna brahman in your comment. God can take any form and appear in the material world.
      as per the scriptures of hinduism,especially the srimad bhagavatha purana,known to be the “ripened fruit of the vedic knowledge”,we find that God can take unlimited forms and appear in this world. thus the avatars are not “associatiing partners to God”,because they are not different entities to be a “partner”,they are various forms in which God appears in the world.the idea is the same-God appearing in a form in the world.this does not make it polytheism-it is still monotheism,but apparently polytheism because of the perception with misunderstanding.
      thus i dont find any misunderstanding.

      as for the verse of the formles god”na tasya pratima asti”.remember this refers to hiranyagarbha,the “golden egg”from which the world is born.brahman manifests himself into this hiranyagarbha and unmanifest,formless and pervades the world as the egg breaks and expands into the universe.thus the god here refered to is brahman,or god in the unmanifest form.thus having no images.further read bhagavath githa,where krishna says,”by me,in my unmanifest form,this entire universe is pervaded”.so as to say, what it means is that, giod in this particular verse is the unmanifestedd formless motionless brahman manifestation ofGod whoch is nirguna.but god is also saguna,with form and other qualities and is hence complete with all qualities.thus he appears in any form.when we worship god,we worship him in the manifested brahman conception,or saguna brahman.
      understanding thismuch,i dont find any contradiction.
      now the choice is yours,to choose this hindu idea or reject it.your wish.

    • THE vedas do say. abput god avatars as mentioned before.
      YES HE IS AJA,UNBORN.
      BUT THAT DOES NOT STOP HIM FROM APPEARING IN THE WORLD.HE EXISTED EVEN BEFORE HE APPEARED IN WORLD.
      the idea is that he is not born when he incarnates.,but he simply appears in the world .

      “he is taking a form to accomplish something by his wish to accomplish it in that way”

      coukd you explain how it lack logic and is irrational?
      the stamtement NEVER contradicts God’s omnipotency.i explained it above.
      read it. i did NOT say that he incarnates toa accomplish something because he cannot accomplish it in another way.what is said was that He incarnates to accomplish it because he WISHED to accomplish in that way.how does it contradict God’s lack of power?
      He simply choose to come down.he can easily accomplis any task but here god chooses to come doewn.thats it.
      now you may ask:why God taking the trouble of coming down if he can easily accomplish any task without coming down to do it.REMEMBER HIS INCARNATIONS ARE CALLED AS LILAS MEANING “SPORTIVE ACTIVITIES”,MEANING THAT HE DOES THEM EASILY AND WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE.

      for that,remember these points:
      (1)God is neutral.nothing can affect him.thus he can choose whichever way he wishes.for him every way he chooses is one and the same.for us,some way might be difficult or indirect and others easy and direct.thus we go for direct and easy way.but god is ever neutral to any situation.thus he,out of his wish chooses different way,some easy and some indirect in our perception,but for God,all these paths are the same.
      thus for him,every thing is “easy” and “directly possible”,though our limited mind does make a gradation.

      to explain this a bit more clearly,let me put it in a different way.for us ,to accomplish something,we may choose different ways,where one is easier than the other.this difference is because of our limitation that one path is easier than the other.
      now consider God.for him,to achieve something,there can be many ways.kets consider two way A and B.if we say A is easier and direct than B,then B is difficult that A.but for God nothing can be “difficult” or “indirect”in any circumstances.he is equal and neutral to all these paths and circumstances.thus for him,even if he sents his messenger,or reveals himself to the sages through vedas,or rveals himself by incarnating down,its all equal for him-he is ever dteatched and ever neutral to all these ways in this manner.
      (2)God is ever detatched from the influence of place,time and circumstances. nothing is going to affect him or his potencies in any situation. naturally,he would appear anywhere at any time and in ay situation as per his wish withou getting affected in any way.naturally,since he is ever free,would come anywhere in the two realms(his spiritual world and the material world-the universe and its planets) as it is all the same for him where ever he is.for this reason,he is called achyutha(the untouchable one)that is, the material world cannot affect him or create in his mind a biased feeling of lising his majesty when he comes down.
      (3)god is all pervasive.in his form also(as saguna brahman),he is not just limited to his vaikuntha loka(personal abode),he pervaded the entire universe by him performing his lilas(the incarnations).thus him revealing his form is not limited to vaikuntha,but also extends it to the universe.

      “gods action are not irrational”
      first there is no irrationality in what i said,u didnt take it in the right sense.
      second,rational are those things which our brains can comprehend.those things our brain cannot comprehend are irrartional. but god is beyond our sense of comprehension. thus he can do things that are irrstional to our mind,since we cannot comprehend them.
      again,if you say he cannot do irrational things,then you limit God’s powers to the level of human understanding,thus your concept of God is not proper,but that of a limited entity.

  10. GOD is incorporeal……God is light…….33 crore deities were divine human beings who once upon a time used to live in INDIA….so indians worship deities along with God because deities were our forefather

    • the holy Scripture of every religion teach the similar lesson,,,therefore its our duty to live peacefully whether we are of different religions…..I like this post because every one talked peacefully…,thanks guys for this…

    • Dear Rupak,

      There is no point in worshipping in fore fathers/mothers. Only GOD is worth worshipping. Sri Rama, Sri Krishna laid down dharmic path for us to follow and they stood as role models fo humanity to lead a dharmic life. Just follow such dignitaries instead of worshpping them.

  11. How True…
    Demolished Makkeshwar and Made Makkah..
    They Kiss A Black Square Marble, But They Say they Believe in
    allah.. Muslims themselves said, there is Ling Inside Kaaba.
    They Make 7 circles round the kaaba wearing white clothes like
    hindu pandits.
    Wow!
    No we believe in Allah, But will kiss Kaaba which is just a marble.
    No we believe in Islam, but will Worship Kaaba, which is Lord Shivas
    temple as makkeshwar years ago..
    No we believe in Allah, but have Ling inside kaaba.
    Oh god!
    Om Namah Shivay!
    Glad that u people worship Shiva. dont accept, doesnt matter. but
    keep worshiping. i love u all

  12. They freaking scream always ‘Idol worship’all throughout their
    life.
    I fail to understand if Allah is Inside Kaaba? thay they go to
    Mecca (Makkeshwar, Lord Shivas temple) and Kiss kaaba (Marble)
    and do hindu way of offering puja by making 7 rounds of circles
    round the kaaba. where there is Shiva Ling inside?
    Non muslims have no entry in mecca.. haha, silly!
    Truth will be revealed.. But sadly, we all know the truth. even an
    animal knows it that mecca is nothing but Originally a hindu Shiva
    temple..
    Wake up fellas.. wake up

  13. Zakir naik once replied to Hindu sisters question that when he
    worship lord krishna, she dreams krishna, she feels krishna, she
    talks to krishna…
    she sarcastically replies, That Allah gives you what u feel.. Allah
    will give u what u ask.. cut the crap
    In one phrase u say, Allah says turn to me. Accept islam. Killing
    kaafirs. there is no one but Allah. how can a god himself
    misguides people who worship Others and not him!?
    And to all freaks, come worship a deity and feel the difference.
    Idol is Idol… and a deity made out of idol is deity and not idol.
    God gives u good life. best of luck

  14. And If i say, why did u demolished makkeshwar and worship
    kaaba with a ling inside with 7 circles by kissing a marble like
    hindus?will u answer me

  15. If you people really think that god is manifested in the idols, then it should have supernatural intelligence, strength, and abilties. Then why when a fly sits on the idol, it can’t chase it away?

    The ones who are logical are certain of this fact that the idols of your deities are completely worth of no action, can’t do anything, even trees can move their branches. Idols where gods manifest according to hindu tradition can’t by itselves do nothing at all.

    And these idols are very much alike like the humans, animals, and human imaginations. No wonder that many people will think of them as human fabrications, fictional imaginations o human mind. Even the aliens in movies look like them with multiple hands and foots. Without a bit of doubt the idols are made up images of god, open lies and blasphemes on how god looks.

    The one who has created this entire vast universe through the powerful process of BIG BANG surely does not look like these gods.

    • God is everywhere and in everyone, god is in the deities also,god is in fly also and why god needs to chase away a fly, there is nothing where he is not,so why he needs to fly away Himself from Himself.

      Deity worship falls under branch of bhakti yoga, in which deity worship is must to grow compassion and supreme love towards god through his presence and in his image.

      The ones who are logical are certain of this fact that science proves god of no religions, so your god is alive in your imagination only,for you its a superman person but another it is dead or non-existence or just a imaginary character of an ancient story book which you only see you as mysterious in your thought only. so in real your god also do nothing at all, its all your imagination which does.

      All religions speaks about form,shape and looks of god, people who those ignorant of their own books are getting deluded by half-knowledgeable persons. One is most-powerful can take anyform on its own, so for love and devotion of his devotees he can take form of any individual deities. Who are mere human to guide god,what to do what not to do!

      • Dear hinduism1om1, Let me request you to answer on your statement about “GOD and fly”.
        GOD is everywhere within us and a fly. Then why do we chase a fly when it lies on us?

        • we are mortals,limited and product of maya and bound to work under the law of karma. god is everywhere as witness not as doer, and energy giver for actions not the actor himself in this material world. So we chase flies, who carries germs.

  16. @Aajas Syed
    God has both formed and formless aspects-nirguna brahman and saguna brahman.the verse u showed refers to formless aspect of God or nirguna brahman.
    but if you look into other verses, you would find many verses talking of different forms of God. what you did is that you forgot this concept of nirgguna and saguna brahman in your comment. God can take any form and appear in the material world.
    as per the scriptures of hinduism,especially the srimad bhagavatha purana,known to be the “ripened fruit of the vedic knowledge”,we find that God can take unlimited forms and appear in this world. thus the avatars are not “associatiing partners to God”,because they are not different entities to be a “partner”,they are various forms in which God appears in the world.the idea is the same-God appearing in a form in the world.this does not make it polytheism-it is still monotheism,but apparently polytheism because of the perception with misunderstanding.

    • Dear Saroj…Let me try to correct you.

      God is nirguna which means HE is void of gunas such as hunger, thirst, angry, happiness, birth, death. God is saguna means, HE is omnipresent, omnipotent etc. These are HIS gunas. this is what vedas say everywhere.

      Could you please quote those manthras from vedas that say, “God can take any form and appear in the material world”. Please don’t give me references from bhagavadgeeta or any puraan, would like to see any quote from Vedas.

      • Dear RamNarayan Ji, yes Vedas have mentioned avatars in themselves.

        Vamana Avatar
        In hymns [R.V. 1.22.17, 1.154.3, 1.154.4] he strides across the Prathivi with three steps, in [R.V.6.49.13 , 7.100.3] strides across the earth three times and in [R,V,154.1, 1.155.5, 7.29.7, 8.12.27, 8.15.9, 8.89.12, 10.113.2] he strides vertically, with the final step in the heavens.

        Krishna Avatar
        Rig veda 1.164.31
        “apasyam gopam anipadyamana ma ca para ca pathibhis carantam sa sadhricih sa visucir vasana avatirvati bhuvanesv antah ”
        I saw a cowherd. He never falls from his position; sometimes he is near, and some times far, wandering on various paths. He is a friend, decorated with a variety of clothes. He comes again and again to the material world.

          • to be nirguna means to mbe transcendental to gunas.yes.but God can do contradictory things by dint of his inconceivable potencies.by which he can appear in this world if he wishes.
            the bhagavad gita and puranas cannot be rejected as such because that is our tradition.as per hindu tradition,bhagavath geetha is said to be the essense of vedantha,and vedantha is the essense of vedas.thus we cannot simly reject bhagavath geetha.
            anyway,my explanation does not show an idea of a limited God,rather ,an all powerful entity.

  17. yes there is no need of God to incarnate,but remember he is transcendental,and is free from eery world.thus for him it is all the same where ever he is,in a form.God is all pervasive,thus his interaction with the world is also all pervasive,and it occurs in every manner.incarnations are one such manner in which he interacts with the world.as for him,as i said,since he is ever detatched,nothing is going to affect him or his nature,so for him,it is all the same where ever He is,in a form.

  18. Bhagwat Gita Chapter #7, Verse #20; all those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods.

    • Nusrath ji, irrespective of any verse, one should understand the difference between devata and paramaatma. Devata is a state of human being where such individuals stand role model for society, be it Sri Rama or Sri Krishna or any such individuals. Such individuals can be found all over the world irrespective of the religion. They are bound to death like us.

      Parameswar is only one, invisible to eyes, formless, omnipotent and omniscient. You my call him Allah, paramaatma or anything else.

  19. If there is ONE God, there can be two or three Gods.Hinduism is not about One God worship or Multi God worship:it is all about REALIZING the DIVINITY within the SELF which is acquired through Atma Gnana.

    • Sureshan ji, there cannot be many GODs. GOD is ONE. You are right that human birth is all about knowing the SELF first and then eventually Parameswar through aatma jnaana.

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